click to enlarge Turkey bone gumbo. - PHOTO BY PETER GLATZ
Turkey bone gumbo.
Turkey bone gumbo.

This is the third column in four weeks that I’ll have written about the food and people of Southern Louisiana. The first two were in response to culinary news: the passing of Paul Prudhomme, who was – literally and figuratively – a figure of immense importance in the evolution of America’s own culinary identity.

But I’ve been planning to write this year’s Thanksgiving column about turkey bone gumbo for almost a year, since I saw Pableaux Johnson’s turkey bone gumbo mentioned in The New York Times cooking blog.

“Gosh – I know Pableaux!” I thought. In fact, I’d been talking with him a few weeks earlier at the Southern Foodways Alliance 2014 Symposium.

Pableaux Johnson is one of the most interesting and charming people I’ve ever met. (The New York Times labels him a “bon vivant.”) The Louisiana native, who lives in New Orleans, has many guises, chief among them a professional photographer and food/travel writer. His hospitality is legendary.

At first I thought that turkey bone gumbo was Johnson’s creation; I’d never seen it in a cookbook. But I soon found that it has a long tradition as a post-Thanksgiving staple in Southern Louisiana. There are countless recipes, although turkey bone gumbo isn’t something that requires allegiance to a strict set of ingredients or quantities. Some suggest adding stuffing, which is logical: Southern stuffings are most typically made of rice or cornbread. I’m suspicious of using bread-based stuffing. Leftover turkey gravy and appropriate vegetables are also often added.

Johnson has taken the turkey bone gumbo tradition to new heights. His story begins in Austin, Texas, where he lived in “exile” for a decade. Appalled that his Texas friends typically threw away Thanksgiving turkey carcasses, he “developed a reputation as a one-man culinary clean-up crew with a curious mission of driving around on post-feast Friday, gathering turkey skeletons from friends…. That night I’d make a huge stock… and on Saturday I’d make a turkey bone gumbo spiked with hot links, and then have a party.”

His return to New Orleans heightened his obsession. No longer content with collecting leftover carcasses post-Thanksgiving, he realized that turkeys were often on pre-Thanksgiving sales. He begged freezer space from friends and took possession of a sophisticated smoker to add another flavor dimension. Johnson even has a blog, Gumbo Crazy, devoted to his passion, appropriately subtitled “23 birds, one tiny kitchen, a delicious variant of OCD.”

Johnson says that it’s become “a five-month, non-stop, large-format kitchen project. It’s a time when I’m never not in some stage of gumbo preparation. Until (mid-spring), I’ll be cooking big batches of turkey/andouille gumbo on a semi-industrial scale.”

Last year Johnson ended up making 54 gallons of gumbo. So what did he do with it all? First, his once-a-year turkey bone gumbo party in Texas has become a weekly event for five months back home in New Orleans. And he gives quarts of turkey bone gumbo, suitable for the freezer, away to anyone who contributed some of those bones to the cause.

What follows is based on Johnson’s recipe as well as my own. The most crucial difference for me is that every recipe I’ve seen for turkey bone gumbo calls for the meat for the gumbo to be removed after the turkey stock has simmered for hours. I like to remove the meat before simmering, or at least just until things have warmed up. That way the turkey retains its flavor; otherwise it’s tasteless.

The basis for turkey bone gumbo – and the primary reason it’s so delicious – is the broth below. Of course, you could use the broth to make other soups: turkey rice, turkey vegetable, turkey noodle, etc. But if you make Turkey bone gumbo with the stock, you will have something that, according to Johnson, is better than you can possibly imagine.

Turkey bone broth
• 1 turkey carcass, including bones, skin, gristle, meat still on the bone and (optional) giblets
• 3 ribs celery, roughly chopped
• 2 medium onions, not supersweet, root end removed and roughly chopped (peeling not necessary)
• 4 garlic cloves, smashed (peeling not necessary)
• 1 T. whole black peppercorns
• 1 T. thyme leaves (not ground)
• 4 bay leaves
• 1 gallon water (4 quarts, 16 c.) or more as needed

Remove as much meat as possible from the turkey carcass; tear into bite-sized pieces. Set aside; refrigerate the meat if you won’t be using it in a couple hours.

Place the carcass in a large stockpot, breaking it up if necessary to make it fit into the pot. Add the celery, onions, garlic, thyme, peppercorns and bay leaves. Cover with at least a gallon of water; depending on the size of the carcass, you may need to add more.

Bring to a boil, then reduce the heat so that the broth is at a bare simmer. Cook for at least 2 hours and up to overnight. If simmering for an extended time, partially or fully cover the pot. The longer the broth cooks, the more flavorful it will become.

Strain the broth through a large colander or sieve and discard the solids. Let the broth stand for about 15 minutes, then skim off the fat that has risen to the surface. Alternatively, quick chill the broth in a sink filled with cold water, then refrigerate until the fat has solidified and can be easily removed. If not using immediately, refrigerate for up to 3 days or freeze in quart-sized containers.

Makes about 3 quarts.
Turkey bone gumbo
• 3/4 c. vegetable oil
• 3/4 c. all-purpose flour
• 2 c. chopped onions
• 1/2 c. chopped bell peppers: red, green or a combination
• 1/2 c. chopped celery
• 1 tsp. – 1 T. minced garlic, to taste
• 1 T. fresh, or 1 tsp. dried thyme leaves (not ground)
• 3 quarts turkey broth
• 2 – 4 c. turkey meat, torn into bite-sized pieces from the turkey carcass and/or leftovers
• 1/2 lb. garlicky smoked sausage, such as andouille or kielbasa, cut into bite-sized pieces
• Salt, freshly ground pepper and ground cayenne to taste
• Cooked white rice

Optional garnishes:
• Chopped parsley, preferably flat-leaf
• Thinly sliced scallions (green onions)

Have ready and at hand the onions, peppers, celery and garlic. Whisk the oil and flour together in a heavy-bottomed cast-iron pot or enameled cast-iron Dutch oven over medium-low heat until no lumps remain. Stir slowly, sporadically at first, then constantly as the roux begins to darken beyond golden brown to a rich mahogany color to a deep chocolate. The darker the roux the more complex its flavor, and, surprisingly, the less thickening power it has. This should take about 20 to 25 minutes.

As soon as the roux is a deep mahogany remove the pot from the burner and immediately dump in the onions, peppers, celery and garlic, stirring constantly. The roux should turn a shade darker. Don’t worry; that’s what should happen.

Return the pot to the heat and sauté the vegetable/roux mixture until the vegetables have softened, about 5 minutes. Add the broth and bring to a boil. Reduce the heat to medium-low and simmer uncovered for 45 minutes. Add the reserved turkey meat and sausage and simmer for 20 minutes.

Season to taste with salt, pepper and cayenne; let simmer another 10 minutes. Check the seasoning and adjust if needed.

Place a mound of cooked rice in each soup bowl, surround with the gumbo, and sprinkle with parsley and scallions if desired.

Serves 6-8 or more.

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